Programming, computers, etc. [Serious]

[atomtengeralattjaro]

I found this sadfunny:



Thankfully we're using openssh instead of libssh so I didn't need to update for this latest wonder of a bug.

[assdef]

Don't shh me! You shh yourself!

Rude!

[atomtengeralattjaro]

[Ml08180]

I was wondering what everyone tech-inclined feels about JSL vs PHP webpages. JSL's syntax is really horrible to look at and work with (imo), but PHP doesn't have quite the same power Java does when it comes to getting stuff done, so I'm really torn on which one to use.

Just trying to get some alternative perspectives on the utility of one vs the other before deciding what I want to use as the basis of a site I'm designing. I'm planning on running the server on a Linux machine, if that makes one choice significantly more complicated than the other.

[atomtengeralattjaro]

I'm not sure how you'd use the Japanese Sign Language to make a website...

I've never heard of JSL, don't you mean JSP?
A quick search points to at least three different thigns JSL might mean just in the Java context: Java Service Launcher, Java Simulation Library, or Java Search Library. Wow.

Anyhow, I can't give you any useful info since I kind of dislike both Java and PHP, and am not a web developer. If it were me I'd try using ASP.NET (with mono), just because it would let me code in C# and that's what I'm comfortable with. But in general I just don't like working on websites...

I think your choice should depend on what you're more comfortable with, as well as what kind of complexity you need in server-side logic. You can pull off a ton of stuff with php, but the code might will get messy I guess

[Ml08180]

I did mean JSP, I was posting during a break and my fingers betrayed me

Also ASP is a little off the table for me as I primarily (almost exclusively) use Ubuntu and ASP gets dependent on Microsoft for some stuff. I could probably work around it, but every time I try to work around MS products on my machine it's always a headache so I tend to avoid them whenever possible. Thank you though!

[vraiment]

I'd drop PHP in the toilet hoping to never see it again

[Ml08180]

I think I enjoyed using it, but I'm not entirely sure if it was the PHP or the AJAX that I actually liked. Either way, JSP is part of my training for my job so I guess I'll wait to work with JSP a little more before I decide

[vraiment]

Just learn dependency injection, make your variables final (*ALL YOUR VARIABLES*) and you will be fine

[Shai'tan]

Anyhow, I can't give you any useful info since I kind of dislike both Java and PHP, and am not a web developer. If it were me I'd try using ASP.NET (with mono), just because it would let me code in C# and that's what I'm comfortable with. But in general I just don't like working on websites...

What I'm currently doing at work, .Net Core v3, which seems pretty good. I'm no web developer either though.

I did mean JSP, I was posting during a break and my fingers betrayed me

Also ASP is a little off the table for me as I primarily (almost exclusively) use Ubuntu and ASP gets dependent on Microsoft for some stuff. I could probably work around it, but every time I try to work around MS products on my machine it's always a headache so I tend to avoid them whenever possible. Thank you though!

Java is pretty good*, not sure about JSP though. How does it compare to using something like React frontend + Java backend?

* Not as good as Kotlin though

[Ml08180]

Not as good as Kotlin though

You say that like bb code isn't the highest form of programming

[MasterPanda]

im in digital technology class and the teacher is teaching html which i learnt 2 years ago so i guess its time to procrastinate and waste time on asdf forums.

[vraiment]

* Not as good as Kotlin though

kotlin = bliss

im in digital technology class and the teacher is teaching html which i learnt 2 years ago so i guess its time to procrastinate and waste time on asdf forums.

wattup? keep procrastinating (or don't, idk)

[MasterPanda]

yes i shall continue to do so. I seem to now be doing it in my business class

[atomtengeralattjaro]

business class? with peanuts and priority boarding?

[atomtengeralattjaro]

I'm not one for esoteric programming languages, but this one made me laugh:
https://tabloid.vercel.app/ (Click it, it will surprise you! )

[ThingerDudes]

this is terrible I love it.

The other day I was trying to explain to a senior dev why it's bad that the last updated timestamp was in the future. I think I might have also been trying to explain that unix time doesn't have timezones.

this is further evidence that timezones were a mistake and should be abolished.

[atomtengeralattjaro]

maybe that senior dev was only a senior in the future

anyhow, time is an illusion, but NTP wouldn't tell you that.