ASDF Help Thread. [Serious]

[cyan]

are there any specific steps you must take to become godly, such as attaining high social status, superior intelligence, or control over others?
also, would attaining the Keja status involve being viewed as equal to Keja?

[keja]

To answer the first question, yes, intelligence is important. You have to be a quck thinker and allways have a snappy responce. This is handly accompanied by great traits like charm and wit, which are useful for gaining popularity among your peers. It's important to not try and control them, but wait for them to let you control them. Remember, narcisism is better socially accepted than megalomania. This is not all you need though, you also have to be interesting. I can see you already like Bowie. This is crucial. It's always a plus that you look good whenever you are outside your home. Dress well (but not always formally) for every occaision, and have nice hair. If you can't get the fancy and expensive products all the famous peeps put in it, here's a trick. Shower/bathe every day, but only wash your hair every other day. It'll look better like that.

As for the second point, with hard work and perfect practice (remember, practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practicemmakes perfect) you can become an equal, but it won't be easy. Plus, give it a couple of years and you could probably overtake me. A keja with breasts would be nearly unstoppable.

[cyan]

I reckon I'll need to speed up my thinking and, rather than going with the most obvious answer, I could try picking a more obscure one. and study humour. because I have a different sense of humour than most people. I need to make better first impressions. sometimes I make really bad ones. but I have a couple peers that I'd consider followers, and some that I can easily manipulate, no matter their intelligence or strength... I suppose I've gotten a good start with them, but others are much more shallow so it might involve stooping down to their level while really just playing with them?
I tend to dress well all the time, naturally, and sometimes my mother says I dress too well on weekends while staying at home. so that won't be a problem. and I do shower every evening but I'll try that thing about the hair.
I can't thank you enough, keja, I think you could be my best friend in this game, and even if I had the opportunity to overtake you, I wouldn't. you would be my brother.

[Ml08180]

I reckon I'll need to speed up my thinking and, rather than going with the most obvious answer, I could try picking a more obscure one. and study humour. because I have a different sense of humour than most people. I need to make better first impressions. sometimes I make really bad ones. but I have a couple peers that I'd consider followers, and some that I can easily manipulate, no matter their intelligence or strength... I suppose I've gotten a good start with them, but others are much more shallow so it might involve stooping down to their level while really just playing with them?
I tend to dress well all the time, naturally, and sometimes my mother says I dress too well on weekends while staying at home. so that won't be a problem. and I do shower every evening but I'll try that thing about the hair.
I can't thank you enough, keja, I think you could be my best friend in this game, and even if I had the opportunity to overtake you, I wouldn't. you would be my brother.

An important tip to keeping people around you:

dark humor is not everyone's cup of blended infant.

[keja]

Oh, yeah. Don't try too many of those.

[cyan]

I used to have problems with dark humour. now I know when to be careful.

[assdef]

Is it just me, or did keja just take asdfkumquat as his padawan learner?

[keja]

I don't know. I was never really into star trek.

[assdef]

Luke, live long and prosper!

[Ml08180]

I have a problem.


I think I might be suffering from clinical depression. I've looked up all the signs and symptoms and I match just about all of them and lately I've had trouble getting the motivation to even get up in the mornings. I'm always tired, no matter how long I sleep, I slept 15 hours one day, got up for two, and slept for another 17 hours but I was still tired when I woke up the next day. I've been getting worse and worse for about 2 months now and it wasn't until last week I actually considered suicide. I just have no motivation to do anything and sometimes I just wish it would all go away.

[Flying Sheep]

I'd like to say that you don't, but I don't see you enough to say differently, but I've often found that self diagnoses can often be biased by yourself, and you may not actually match all of the symptons, you just think you do, or you see that way. As to the sleeping problem, I dunno what it is, but sometimes, when I sleep more than normal, I tend to be more tired when I wake up. Don't try suicide, please don't even think about it, it never solves anything, and maybe you should try to find a close friend or family member to sit down and have a talk with, discuss some issues, and about how likely it might be that you have depression. Just the one thing you must always remember, you're not alone, there will always be people there to help you through.

[assdef]

The symptoms you describe also sound like mono. I agree with FS - self-diagnosis often becomes more of a self-fulfilling prophecy. You ever listen to commercials for pharmaceuticals? The suggested symptoms are always super-generic. If I listened to them they would have me taking estrogen supplements because I occasionally feel bloated, but I'm confident I don't have a hormone imbalance.

Getting up in the morning in high school sucks for everyone. It helps if you find something to focus on, like a goal you want to achieve or a project you enjoy. The day-to-day can feel mundane if you don't have a specific purpose to work towards.

And suicide? I don't know you that well, but you don't seem selfish enough to do that to your friends and family. I've gone through having to deal with suicide and I can tell you it is one of the most hurtful things you can do to the people around you. I'm not sure anyone is ever justified in doing that.

Besides, you can't post on the ASDF Forums if you're dead, and JKL; would be that much stronger.

[Arkannine]

Yup. Get goals, short and long term ones, or at least something to look forward to. The one time I didn't, I went into a horribly bland lazy state of mind for weeks, and ended up doing some pretty stupid stuff. It helps you get on with it, doing whatever you can to reach your short term goal and doing something every day for the long term one. And hell, if you put your mind to it and do something awesome once a month, your life will improve loads over a couple of years. And I'm not even mentioning the cool feeling you get after doing something you really had to work for.

[lunar_furor]

Your sleeping is possibly a result of too much sleep, when you sleep too much you actually start making your self tired. After 8 hours of sleep you stop recuperating and actually start wearing your self out, if you sleep too long you'll wake up tired.

[lunar_furor]

No offense, but I doubt anyone here is gonna help me much. However out of that chance I'm gonna try.

Lately I've noticed that I find my self unsettled when some people talk about sex, drinking, or smoking (of any kind). These people are all close to me. Yet I've drank, smoked, and the status of the last one is between me and my girlfriend. I'll only talk about the first two from now on. So while drinking (which I've done only twice and avoid it as much as possible) which I only do to get people to be quiet at the bar, and smoking I have only had one little cigar in the last 5 or 6 months. But I don't feel good doing these things. I know I have a problem with the people I care about doing these things, but I also know I shouldn't say anything because it's their choice. What are your thoughts?

I also noticed that I can't tolerate the word cheat in any context when talking about relationships, not in movies, shows, other people's conversations. Even if someone says to their partner in some kind of Role Play thing (EX: The movie Little Fockers) it disturbs me. This makes me depressed and disturbed, because it makes me sound paranoid but I'm not. I find cheating to be a crime almost as bad as murder, and know that all of my friends and family are at least somewhat on the same level.

I get pissed when shows like Weeds (most recent example) use nothing but senseless frivolity. I can't stand any of it and it pisses me off because I know it shouldn't bother me. It's a god damn show that has no effect on anyone I know. My only conclusion in my mind for this is that I must subconsciously think that it does. But I can't support that idea because then I have to think that games do the same thing as another form of media and I know that isn't true.

I've noticed at work, when I get a lot of down time, if I'm not listening to music that is purely instrumental my mind tends to slip into thinking about horribly depressing things. I don't like thinking about these things, and try not to but every time I get to thinking about something else my fucking ADD brain uses it's 'let's just relate stuff to get back to that one thing' trick it does and I'm back to it. I mean shit like, how would I handle my parents dying. What if my house burns down and I lose everything. What if my girlfriend dies? What if I can't get another job and have to stay in the horrible working conditions I'm in right now? What if everyone I know is lying to me about something important (such as finding something funny about me, enjoying when I talk, liking my presence, just to make me feel better)? I hate these things, and never think of them when I'm not distracted in one way or another. Anything will set it off if I'm not engaged in something.

I know this makes me sound like a super depressed dark person but, in fact, I'm very happy more than half the time. When I am with my girlfriend, friends or family I never have any issues. It's when I get to thinking that this happens. What pisses me off the most is, well I try to solve problems. I like to think I'm ok at it, but the human mind and it's proscesses are a problem I can't fix, and it's VERY frustrating to me. I don't want to have these frivolous insecurities over trivial things about my self, I don't want to feel like I want to restrict others (which I'll never do, that's a horrible thing to do), I don't want my mind to wander, but I don't want to change so much that I'm not me anymore. I just want to cut out or lessen these things, and any help anyone can give would be more than greatly appreciated.

[Flying Sheep]

Hmmm, we probably can't help, but we can try.

And, to me, I think the whole movie thing and the cheat and stuff is just a little more perfectionist behaviour, which I don't think is a bad thing, I think it's just you like things more organised, to work smoothly, with a point, and with people doing things right. As to whether that's right or not, I dunno, but I have noticed things like that from you before, so I'm guessing that's what it is.

Same with the alcohol and smoking, I think it's just you wanting to keep things perfect and peachy clean and stuff, and you don't like doing it, or watching others do it. And if you don't like doing either, I don't think there's anything wrong, I commend you for not liking it, infact.

And with the music thing, I don't know if you've gone through anything stressful lately, but something stressful lately could be triggering similiar thoughts to what you went through. It might not work, but sometimes it's helpful to get a nice song that you like stuck in your head. It can be annoying at times, but it can help to keep your mind from things. Just listen to that song over and over, sing it to yourself, in your mind and out aloud, I find it useful.

I just think, if anything, things seem to be better for you when people are around or you're doing something, so maybe just try to hang around your friends more, or do something to keep yourself occupied more? Hope I helped a little.

[Shai'tan]

I could have written the last half myself, I know exactly how you feel

Sorry for saying this, but I'll have to get back to it seeing how I have a job interview in 25min

EDIT: Okay back.

Let's see. Drinking and smoking, that's up to you. You decide whether you drink and smoke or not, your friends can't push you into anything, and if they really try, they shouldn't be your friends. Personally I'm against smoking, though I find drinking to be quite fun when with friends. Again, it's all personal, and if you don't feel comfortable doing it, don't.

Do you know why you don't tolerate the word cheat? If you know it, it could help to talk about it. Trust me I know. If you don't know the reasons, it could be some kind of underlying, desperate fear of it because of an earlier event or something similar. These things are hard to help with without knowing you in person...

As for the thoughts thing. Well, I used to get that a lot. Like all the time when I was alone or generally not paying attention to anything. I still get it, but a lot less. What I figured it to be, for me anyway, was a desperate need to talk about things. So I did. I talked about a lot of things that has been bothering me for ages, things I've always kinda wanted to talk to someone about. I have to admit that it helped a lot. Maybe it's just because I've been really busy lately and always having someone around, but it definitely made things easier.

Hope everything works out

[lunar_furor]

I've never been cheated on or have ever given thought to cheating. I don't know why it bothers me so much. But I think these two things are gonna help me a lot. It's given me a lot to think about, thanks guys. I'll try to develop these ideas.

[keja]

The reason you don't like these things is because you've been tricked into not liking them, man. You hate cheating because you think it's morally wrong, and you think it's wrong because thats what the world has taught you. The world taught you this because of the evil grip of religion that presses the image of sex as dirty thing into our mind, when really its all we were born to do. People should be able to love one another freely, with no jealousy. Marriage is just a trap. A trap to imprison your soul and take away the enjoyment you and your partner once had!

And about the smoking and drinking, that's not everybody's thing. It's perfectly normal to not like them, just by looking at regular users/abusers.

[lunar_furor]

The reason you don't like these things is because you've been tricked into not liking them, man. You hate cheating because you think it's morally wrong, and you think it's wrong because thats what the world has taught you. The world taught you this because of the evil grip of religion that presses the image of sex as dirty thing into our mind, when really its all we were born to do. People should be able to love one another freely, with no jealousy. Marriage is just a trap. A trap to imprison your soul and take away the enjoyment you and your partner once had!

And about the smoking and drinking, that's not everybody's thing. It's perfectly normal to not like them, just by looking at regular users/abusers.

I wasn't raised religious, and I would punch you in the face if I could to be honest, as a friend. I hate cheating, not because religious pressure, but because of my logic and reasoning that I don't want to be an ass to the ones I love. For someone who hasn't had love his whole life cheating is spitting in my face. Marriage is also not religious, nor a trap if you actually do it right. I find sex to be a beautiful thing between two people, not some discarded trash activity to toss around because it feels good. I'm seriously surprised and disappointed by that statement, I quit this thread.

My friend made a good point. The reason may be that we hate people doing what we dislike is because our mind doesn't make the connection that it's not us doing the act and by letting it happen we may feel we are the ones doing it.