A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

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For or Against creating an advertisement section? (Please, read carefully the proposal)

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A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by Ivokyuftaf6666 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:19 am

Officially, and in front of the whole audience of the ASDF forums, I am launching a new, completely innovative and futuristic idea, an absolutely ivokyuftafian idea.

What about making an Advertisement section, in order to increase the activity of the ASDF forums? Its concept is the following:
-Users with at least one approved post to be allowed to post there in an unlimited amount.
-"Advertisement" to be the only section on ASDF, where advertising and double posting are allowed.


In my opinion, this would be useful for ASDF for the following reasons:
-I notice that many newlycomers never get one post approved. this makes me think that many advertisers register on ASDF.
-This idea would motivate them to post in the other sections, as well-intentioned users, so that they would be able to advertise their products for free.
-While they are waiting for approval of their first post, as well as for replies, they will look at what other users post.
-Then these avdertisers might get addicted to ASDF.
-Also, the rules might say that no more than one quarter of all user posts can be in the advertisement section. One more stimulus for advertisers to take part in the other sections.
-As a result, ASDF would have a bigger number of active users. I believe, that the quality would be high, as well, because, usually people with good qualities are elected as advertisers.

Would you, please, vote in the poll?

Also, please, note that I find this idea logical, based on my autistic interpretation of the world.

Fun fact: "General, Art, rope-play, Games, advertisement" could be represented as an acronym for "Garga". in Bulgarian language, there is a word "garga", and it means "crow".
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To be honest, that fun fact inspired that idea. Though, I really think it would be useful for ASDF. For reasons, explained in this topic.
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by Shai'tan » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:58 am

I would unfortunately have to disagree. While it's true that there are a lot of advertisers who join the forum, it's a very good reason that they do not get further.
Here is an example of a typical account that joins the forum to post "advertisment":

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In 99.9% of the cases they are bots. Unfortunately the forum doesn't have great anti-bot measures. It's one (if not the) reason we have an approval system in place in the first place. Which perhaps does defer new people from joining, but makes the forum that much more clean. Before I did a clean-up (deleted more than 55 thousand accounts) we had a lot of spam posts every day. It's better now, but we still have bots join every single day.
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by Ivokyuftaf6666 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:59 pm

Thanks for the answer! From now on, I will have it in mind. I thought that advertisers were better than what they turned out to be. Though, it is curious to see what the other ASDF users think about this idea.

Also, in relation to this, my other questions are:
-Should I interpret Shai`tan`s answer in a way, meaning that he is against, because people who are interested in advertising, spam a lot usually and because advertisers act in contradiction to the moral, and,
-If I do not login and do not visit ASDF for more than one year, may I be sure that my account will not be deleted just because of inactivity? How often at least should I visit ASDF, so that I could be calm about my account?
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by atomtengeralattjaro » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:49 pm

Yeah, there's no chance of advertisers becoming normal users.
Ivokyuftaf6666 wrote:because people who are interested in advertising, spam a lot usually and because advertisers act in contradiction to the moral
And they just don't care. Most are robots anyway, designed to post ads and pretend to be real people.
Ivokyuftaf6666 wrote:-If I do not login and do not visit ASDF for more than one year, may I be sure that my account will not be deleted just because of inactivity?
Don't worry! "Inactive" in this case means any account that hasn't yet confirmed its email address. Any account that's been "activated" is active and stays that way unless for some reason we manually force reactivation (which won't happen to any regular user). We check post count too. Basically anyone who's posted more than a couple of times is safe.
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by Shai'tan » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:40 pm

Ivokyuftaf6666 wrote:Thanks for the answer! -Should I interpret Shai`tan`s answer in a way, meaning that he is against, because people who are interested in advertising, spam a lot usually and because advertisers act in contradiction to the moral,
You can interpret it as "advertisers" on this forums are bots and thus cannot become regular users. Even if it were people doing the advertising I would be against it. If the goal is to increase the members of the forum there are many ways better than inviting advertisers. Their main goal would always be to advertise and sell us something, letting them post here "freely" would be against the purpose of the forums.

It is not my intention to sound harsh or anything.
Ivokyuftaf6666 wrote:-If I do not login and do not visit ASDF for more than one year, may I be sure that my account will not be deleted just because of inactivity? How often at least should I visit ASDF, so that I could be calm about my account?
Do not worry, your account will never be in danger of being deleted. When I clean up accounts I do it by some very specific filters, one of which is that the account has 0 posts. Even then it's a process where I first deactivate the account and then delete them, checking twice to make sure that there aren't any legitimate accounts among them. There are some old accounts that have 0 posts that I watch out for so they don't get deleted.
So anyone who doesn't want to have their account deleted should just make sure they have at least one post somewhere on the forum, and if not have a somewhat legitimate username and email (I do have a prejudice against Russian mail providers).
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Post by keja » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:55 pm

You guys are giving advertisers a bad name. Most of them are real people just like you that want to make friends and influence people experience what the best of the web has to offer.

Also, ask me about my line of Keja T-Shirts and refrigerator magnets coming Q3 2017
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by vraiment » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:55 am

Shai'tan wrote:Unfortunately the forum doesn't have great anti-bot measures. It's one (if not the) reason we have an approval system in place in the first place. Which perhaps does defer new people from joining
Isn't that the reason why the forum is so low in activity? What about using Google's new 1-click captcha thing?
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by Shai'tan » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:57 am

I wouldn't say it's the reason. It might be a contributing factor, but most people who post once post again despite having to wait for the post to be approved. We unfortunately cannot change the captcha, only Philtom can do that.
keja wrote:You guys are giving advertisers a bad name. Most of them are real people just like you that want to make friends and influence people experience what the best of the web has to offer.

Also, ask me about my line of Keja T-Shirts and refrigerator magnets coming Q3 2017
I sense sarcasm. Now where are those hot singles? Need something to listen to.
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by vraiment » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:15 pm

Wasn’t Q3 2017 like 2 Qs ago?
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by keja » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:32 pm

I'm living in 2019, timescale is hard when you're going backwards.
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by vraiment » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:03 pm

Wow, over how many Qs are you living in?
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by Greyson » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:13 pm

keja wrote:Also, ask me about my line of Keja T-Shirts and refrigerator magnets coming Q3 2017
Might miss the Point, but I'd buy Keja merch if there was some.

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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by atomtengeralattjaro » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:19 pm

Here you go

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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by Froggychum » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:23 pm

i love that, thank you Atom
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by keja » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:51 pm

atomtengeralattjaro wrote:Here you go

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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by atomtengeralattjaro » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:06 pm

BBC News wrote:atomtengeralattjaro 'strongly' denies alleged copyright infringement
The Atom House says atomtengeralattjaro "clearly and consistently" rejects Keja's claims.

The Atom House has denied allegations that atomtengeralattjaro had an infringement with an copyright.

Keja gave details about the alleged 2018 infringement during an interview on ASDF Forums' "A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF" programme.

"The atom doesn't believe that any of the claims that Keja made in his interview were accurate," said spokesman tengeralattjaro.

atomtengeralattjaro's lawyers are seeking $20m (£14m) in damages from him, saying he broke a non-disclosure deal.
I did not have infringement relations with that copyright.
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by keja » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:33 pm

atomtengeralattjaro wrote: atomtengeralattjaro's lawyers are seeking $20m (£14m) in damages from him, saying he broke a non-disclosure deal.
Not again.
Looks like its time for me to go underground for another six years
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by Froggychum » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:44 pm

u guys are bloing my mindsauce
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by Greyson » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:04 pm

Nevermind the copyright infringment, I'll take 20 if that's okay.
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Re: A proposal for creating a new section on ASDF

Post by ThingerDudes » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:30 pm

keja wrote:
atomtengeralattjaro wrote: atomtengeralattjaro's lawyers are seeking $20m (£14m) in damages from him, saying he broke a non-disclosure deal.
Not again.
Looks like its time for me to go underground for another six years
and then you can emerge as a fully grown cicada
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