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I now live in the USA

Post by vraiment » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:29 am

Hi, I moved to the USA, got hired by a big tech company, hurray?
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Post by Shai'tan » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:06 am

Hurray! Congratulations! :D
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Post by atomtengeralattjaro » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:23 am

Congrats!
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Post by Uly » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:12 pm

Cool! What field is the tech company in?
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Post by atomtengeralattjaro » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:13 pm

I bet it's in the tech field.
If it's in San Francisco, it might be tech tech.

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Post by Uly » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:20 pm

I have always hated people who feel superior for living on the west coast.
Also, Wu-Tang is better than NWA.
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Post by ThingerDudes » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:27 pm

Living in San Francisco is expensive as hell + the locals who've been there for a long time hate the techie transplants and apparently everything is their fault. There just needs to be more housing, but no development anywhere for whatever reason.

and bruh I'll take Pac over Biggie so yeah

and I don't know about like 20+ years ago, but in the last like, 5 years or so there really haven't been too much interesting rap music from NY area, at least not compared to elsewhere on the map. Really, of the major hubs NY has been the least interesting as far as rap goes imo. Not saying there aren't great NY artists, but there aren't as many compared to say, LA or Chicago. Not a big fan of Atalanta rap as it is at the moment, but it is getting more commercial success than NY.

and I think the NWA guys have had their careers age more gracefully than Wu Tang so yeah fu RZA and your stupid one of a kind wu tang album thing that was dumb.

Ghostface still dope tho
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Post by Uly » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:24 pm

Outkast is from Atlanta and they're pretty good. The only major operator in New York seems to be DJ Preimer, who is more active than ever. Personally, fast coast rap has always been more grounded to reality than west coast. I would have been chill with once upon a time in shoalin if they just released a mp3 batch but no, no release for 88 years until the Wu-Tang and/or Bill Murray steal it back.
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Post by ThingerDudes » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:50 pm

Saying kast is pretty good is a bit of an understatement. But there hasn't been a real kast album since Stankonia which was 16 years ago. And I was mostly talking about new Atlanta like Future and Migos. Premo's still doing dope stuff like Prhyme but he hasn't really done anything that's really groundbreaking in some time.

Not sure if I'd call the new East coast stuff more grounded in reality now. The guys I consider to be really good at that are Kendrick, Freddie Gibbs, K.R.I.T., Pusha T etc don't really come from East coast. Maybe Joey Badass is the exception out of the guys that are coming up recently, but mostly the new East coast has been a lot of high on ideas and concepts without really fleshing it out as much as I would like.

idk man I really think the trend now is for artists to find their own sound regardless of region, so it's just harder to group rappers by region.

Also I think I really just want DOOMSTARKS to drop out of anything Wu-Tang related.
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Post by Uly » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:56 pm

Is there any rap in canada
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Post by atomtengeralattjaro » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:29 pm

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but really, i never understood the whole region based music thing. I guess it made sense before the internet but I don't see why it should make any sense now.
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Post by Uly » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:39 pm

Different places, different sitiuations.
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Re: I now live in the USA

Post by ThingerDudes » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:21 am

Uly wrote:Is there any rap in canada
There's Drake, although I don't really like his music. The Canadian rappers I like are more backpack-y. There's a Shad who I really like. Classified does some good songs every now and then. He actually has a song with premo that came out recently that I like.
atomtengeralattjaro wrote:but really, i never understood the whole region based music thing. I guess it made sense before the internet but I don't see why it should make any sense now.
Yeah man different places different situations. I don't think Chicago drill could really have come from anywhere else, and Atlanta rap I don't think makes sense anywhere else either. You also wouldn't expect someone rapping about Bloods and Crips to come from Minneapolis or something.

Sound wise though I guess there's less defining regional characteristics these days though.
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Re: I now live in the USA

Post by Uly » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:34 am

What makes me sad that all hip-hop today is about the dance. Also, probably one of Filthy Frank's best moments was when he rapped along to the first 4 seconds of Rapper's Delight and called it street slang.
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Post by assdef » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:08 am

vraiment wrote:Hi, I moved to the USA, got hired by a big tech company, hurray?
God damned Mexican immigrants! An old, bearded man waving his index finger at you while slightly shaking his cane and muttering something. Always taking our 'MURICAN jobs! Vote Donald Trump! He'll make them pay for the wall!
ThingerDudes wrote:Living in San Francisco is expensive as hell + the locals who've been there for a long time hate the techie transplants and apparently everything is their fault. There just needs to be more housing, but no development anywhere for whatever reason.
That reason is: NIMBY!

You're absolutely right that locals do not like the techies, but the interesting thing now is there are wayyyyyyy more "techies" than locals - the city has seen an incredible transformation. The locals have all started moving to the East Bay, so there are fewer locals to complain about the techies.

And unless you're made of tacos, you'll probably think tech jobs are pretty shitty work (sitting in front of a computer screen for hours on end trying to solve damn near impossible problems) so there aren't enough talented techies to do the work, that means tech companies pay premium wages to attract talent, and the techies use that extra money to support their hipster San Francisco experience where they pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy tiny-sized studio apartments and a ridiculous overpriced food ($9 will buy you a scoop of Bi-Rite ice cream made from organic, locally-sourced ingredients). This influx of hipsters has virtually eliminated the available housing supply and driven housing prices sky high.

Since the city is motivated to increase population (brings in more tax revenue) the housing demand will continue to be strong and so the only solve is to increase housing supply. There are lots of options to do that, but San Francisco laws are set up such that a lot of the zoning regulation exceptions required to build larger condo projects and apartment buildings mandate that the neighborhood residents around the proposed project "approve" the zoning change, either at the city council level, or by referendum vote. And every time a proposition like that has come up for a vote it has been shot down by the voters. So what you have are a bunch of hipsters who say they want to solve the SF housing problem, but when solutions are proposed the typical response from the hipsters is: "Not In My Back Yard" (NIMBY) - meaning they want a solution to fix the problem but not if it involves constructing buildings near where they live. The reasons current residents give for not wanting high rise buildings in their neighborhood are often thing like, "I won't be able to see the waterfront anymore if you build there" or "The building will cast a shadow on my home for a couple hours of the day" - in other words really bullshit, elitist, selfish reasons that go against the spirit of inclusiveness and tolerance many people think SF was founded on. Hypocrites, all of 'em.

Needless to say, while I miss my friends a lot, there is A LOT about SF I don't miss at all.
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Post by Uly » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:41 pm

Those damn hipsters. What are they good for?
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Re: I now live in the USA

Post by ThingerDudes » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:25 pm

Yeah I interned in SF for a year for a tech job and got a offer to come back after I graduated with a really good salary. Didn't take it because I really didn't think it would be better than what I got around here. I figured even if the numeric amount was more, I wouldn't necessarily get to live the same quality of life. From what I've heard it's only gotten worse so I think I made the right call.

Didn't really know about the zoning laws and things like that though.
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Post by Uly » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:25 pm

I've never been to SF, or Calipornfornia in general, but from what I've heard the quality of life is going down all over the place.
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Re: I now live in the USA

Post by atomtengeralattjaro » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:58 pm

Thanks for the interesting insight, assdef.
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atomtengeralattjaro wrote:but really, i never understood the whole region based music thing. I guess it made sense before the internet but I don't see why it should make any sense now.
Yeah man different places different situations. I don't think Chicago drill could really have come from anywhere else, and Atlanta rap I don't think makes sense anywhere else either. You also wouldn't expect someone rapping about Bloods and Crips to come from Minneapolis or something.

Sound wise though I guess there's less defining regional characteristics these days though.
You'll have to excuse me but I know next to nothing about hip-hop in general, and when it comes to music, lyrics almost always come second for me.
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Post by Uly » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:33 pm

I regard lyrics and music equally, they compliment each other. That's why I hate (most) acapella groups and (all) jam bands.
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